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      1 comment  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
      AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

      Tiago, thanks for your suggestion! It does make sense, although I'm not sure how popular such requirement would be. I'll record it as a feature.

      I think the way to address this right now is through external automation: one can write a script that would call the Excel exporting address, pass the parameters and download the resulting file, then send it as an attachment. Would you have a separate host to run such script regularly?

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        23 comments  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
        AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

        Good news!

        Structure 4.2 just shipped with the feature that shows the full content of a cell on hover. I understand that for some it may be not an ideal solution, as not all cells are shown at once, but I hope it should help a bit.

        It would be great if you tried the new version and commented whether the solution is good enough or needs more work.

        Feature description: https://wiki.almworks.com/x/4A9KAg
        Release notes: https://wiki.almworks.com/x/5Q9KAg

        Kind regards,
        Igor

        AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

        Thanks for your comment. No update yet, but please keep your votes and comments coming -- they do help us bring more attention to this feature.

        Thanks!
        Igor

        AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

        Hi Pat,

        Thanks -- that is one of the possible features to address this problem. I've just just raised its priority in our internal JIRA, so we might get to work on it sooner.

        Kind regards,
        Igor

        AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

        Matthew, thanks for the good feedback!

        From your comment I read a somewhat different feature than the one discussed here. Basically, you want to take a structure with all JIRA fields, as it is shown now, but then be able to add some notes and/or color in individual cells (which of course would required them to be bigger). And that would be the basis for a presentation.

        Is that correct?

        Kind regards,
        Igor

        AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

        Hello Cesar,

        I can't give you any specifics at this time, sorry. Structure 3.0 is coming soon so please bear with us until then. Meanwhile, issue details panel is a kind of an alternative, although it would require a larger display to be super useful.

        Kind regards,
        Igor

        AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

        Hello May,

        We're currently working on the major Structure 3.0 release. I can't say for sure if this feature makes it into this release, it's not among the primary feature list. However, we're remaking the user interface and it may be room to either fit this feature in, or at least lay grounds to add this feature soon after 3.0.

        Sorry I couldn't be more specific at this time.

        Kind regards,
        Igor

        AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

        Michael, Matt, thanks for your feedback. We're working on improving Structure plugin in this matter. Hang on!

        Igor

        AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

        Matt, thanks for your comment.

        I understand the problem, we'll try to work on the multiline grid cells at some point. I suggested "on-mouse-hover" solution because it is much easier to do, as the rest of the user interface may be left untouched. Of course easier does not mean better, but it usually means quicker.

        A question for you: would you possible need to see multiple lines in all cells (custom fields with long texts), or do you need only to see more of the Description? (I'm thinking about the way MS Outlook shows second line with message body stretched across all other columns.)

        Igor

        AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

        Shawn, thanks for your comment! At this moment, we're not yet working on this problem but we'll try to come up with a clever solution soon.

        Igor

        AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

        Thanks for your comment.

        I agree that showing the text only on mouse hover is not a very good solution from usability standpoint.

        However, I think that if we allow the rows on the grid to have different heights - depending on how large the content is, it will kill the visibility of the hierarchical structure. This is not an issue on the Issue Navigator, but it definitely is on the structure widget. Take a look at the Printable Page - which behaves exactly like that. It is too easy to make the structure very much unreadable there, and we still haven't found a better solution.

        We'll keep this in mind as we go on. Perhaps when we have a full issue preview (like GreenHopper), the severity of this issue will get a bit lower.

        Thanks
        Igor

        AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

        Thanks for the idea!

        Would it work if the full text was shown if you move mouse pointer to hover over it? (Overlapping other issues)

        I'm not sure I got the idea about the layout - is it about having two rows of cells for each issue instead of one?

        Igor

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          1 comment  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
          AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

          Thanks for your suggestion!

          In the current architecture, a grouper (which you are using to assign issues to folders) cannot remove items from a structure, it can only group. We'll review this architecture closer to Structure 5.0 and maybe make adjustments.

          Currently, you can achieve the same result with Filter transformation. Open Transformations panel, and add Filter : S-JQL with the condition "not folder('No value')" and (important) make it apply at the specific level where this folder is expected. You can save this transformation and associate with the structure. See https://wiki.almworks.com/x/YLDrAQ

          If you need to make this filter a part of structure, that's a bit tricky, because normally Filters are applied before Groupers. So you'll need to create a second structure, insert the first structure in it (via Insert : Structure), and then add a similar filter.

          Hope this helps!
          Igor

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            1 comment  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
            AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

            Hi Marit,

            Thanks for your feedback. Do you know how the deletion happens? Do they hit Delete key or press "x" button?

            The pop-up message is rather prominent... There's also Undo button and a way to restore the deleted rows from structure's history.

            We wouldn't require confirmation every time a user wants to remove something from a structure. This is going to be annoying for most of the users. We can probably make that a personal option, although we would prefer a solution where the person is made actively aware of what he/she is doing without disruptive questions from the UI.

            Please let us know if you have any insight on how the users miss the confirmation message and what is their intent if not to remove an item.

            Thanks!

            Kind regards,
            Igor

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              1 comment  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
              AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

              Hi Nora,

              Thanks for the feedback! So do I understand you correctly: you would like to be able to copy to clipboard some path based on the issue keys or summaries.

              For example, if you have structure

              * ABC-1
              * * XYZ-2
              * * * DEF-3

              then for DEF-3 you'd like to have path like "ABC-1 / XYZ-2 / DEF-3" - right? (Issue keys or summaries or both?)

              Note that if you need just to send a pointer to another person, you can use "Share" button and perspectives -- see https://wiki.almworks.com/x/tbDrAQ

              Kind regards,
              Igor

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                1 comment  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
                AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                Matthew, thanks for the feedback! Happy to hear formulas proved useful to you. I'd vote for this request myself, as we also found that we want to see the formula value on an issue page and maybe in other add-ons.

                And you're right, it's a bit tricky. According to current thought, there are several ways to implement that:

                1. Have Structure provide a new custom field type, similar to Calculated Field by Script Runner. The configuration of such field would involve selecting a structure to run upon and editing the formula in the same way you do that on the Structure Board. This means one custom field only shows values from one structure.

                2. Same as above, but support only "simple" attributes, which don't depend on the structure. No totals and such. Then we need to configure only the formula.

                3. Have a new synchronizer, which is installed on a structure and runs periodically, writing a formula value onto a standard custom field. The benefit here is that one can use standard fields that are supported by all add-ons, but there's going to be some delay before value is written, plus using synchronizers is less efficient (they would still run and update values even if no one is looking).

                Which option appeals more to you?

                Additional notes:

                * To make things even less easier, one issue may appear in multiple places in a structure. If the formula includes structure-driven values like totals, an issue may have different values in different places. What should we show on the issue page remains a question.

                * The Java API for formulas will be eventually published. We withhold it right now because it's evolving as we're developing this feature further (yes there's going to be more power soon!)

                * Option 3, the synchronizer, can be generalized to allow pushing any Structure attribute into a custom field. This could be used to, say, have sub-issues have the same value in a field as parent issue. Or write the values calculated by Structure.Gantt like start/finish dates into custom fields.

                Kind regards,
                Igor

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                  planned  ·  4 comments  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
                  AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                  Thanks, Alain, that's a great idea! I've posted it to our JIRA.

                  Igor

                  AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                  Hello Alain,

                  Thanks for your feedback. Please confirm if I got it correctly: you'd like the extenders (like Links extender) to be optionally limited by the JQL for the parents and JQL for the children. Right?

                  Kind regards,
                  Igor

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                    planned  ·  1 comment  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
                    AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                    Sergey, thanks for the suggestion!

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                      1 comment  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
                      AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                      Hi Russell,

                      Thanks for your suggestion. Latest versions of Structure have integration with Portfolio, in particular, there are "Parent Link" extender and grouper that would allow you to rebuild a portfolio plan.

                      Could you please expand on what exactly are you looking for? We'll see if it is already shipped or if we need to add more features.

                      Thanks!
                      Igor

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                        2 comments  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
                        AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                        So, Structure 3 has the selector in the toolbar for the level of expansion. The remaining part is adding that as a setting to gadget.

                        AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                        Hello John,

                        Thanks for your suggestion! Collapse/expand to a specific level is coming with 3.0 release. It also makes sense to add the initial expansion level to the gadget parameters, I'm not sure if we can fit it into 3.0, but we'll try.

                        As for making it a part of the view, I think it will introduce more problems than it would solve. We may consider something like "default expansion level" for a structure, but I guess that's further down the road.

                        Kind regards,
                        Igor

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                          3 comments  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
                          AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                          Hi Pim, has this problem been resolved?

                          Thanks,
                          Igor

                          AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                          Hi Pim,

                          Of course you should be able to scroll down. If you don't see a scrollbar and you're on Mac OS X, check if you can scroll with finger gestures. Also on any operating system you can use keyboard (arrows and pageup/pagedown).

                          If you still cannot scroll through structure, please send a screenshot to support@almworks.com and the following information: your operating system and version, you browser and version, the version of Structure in use, the version of JIRA in use.

                          Thanks!
                          Igor

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                            1 comment  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
                            AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                            Hi Jason,

                            By "sync task", do you mean the Filter synchronizer? Did you try the "JQL Inserter", which is a part of the new Automation feature, available in Structure 3.0? If you haven't tried it yet, check out the "Structure 3 Quick Start Guide" here - https://wiki.almworks.com/x/HbHrAQ

                            Kind regards,
                            Igor

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                              1 comment  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
                              AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                              Hi Tyler,

                              Thanks for your suggestion! That makes a lot of sense, but in order to check the progress against time, we need to understand the start and the end dates of a task or a task group. What's more, we'll need to understand the work calendar to exclude weekends and holidays.

                              A part of this feature is coming soon with Gantt Chart extension, where a progress will be clearly seen on the time line. After that we'll see if we can show the "on time / delayed" marker in the table too.

                              Thanks!
                              Igor

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                                2 comments  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
                                AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                Hi Matthew,

                                Thanks for suggestion! This is definitely something that we can implement without a lot of effort -- the supporting architecture is there. My only question is how you track risk, with some custom field? Do you know what type of custom field is that? We need to understand how to compare risk values.

                                Kind regards,
                                Igor

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                                  planned  ·  3 comments  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
                                  AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                  Stefan, thanks for the clarification!

                                  AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                  Hi Stefan,

                                  Thanks for the feedback! Those are really great ideas.

                                  1. We also had the idea of combining several transformations into one, but it involved creating a higher-level concept like "Recipe". It's recorded in our list of future improvements.

                                  2. I understand that you'd like to change the quick transformations that are shown for queries. Would you like to have the transformations that you set up shared with other users?

                                  The reason Quick Transformations are currently not adjustable for queries is that the the transformations settings are attached to the structure and use structure's permissions -- only admins of a structure can set up quick transformations for it, and they will be shown to all users.

                                  When we allow adjusting quick transformations for queries, the simplest thing we could do is to allow each user to have their own set of transformations. But then you wouldn't be able to share it with other people. Is that ok?

                                  Kind regards,
                                  Igor

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                                    2 comments  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
                                    AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                    Hi Mike,

                                    Thanks -- that is an interesting idea, but, I have to say, far from the current plans. There would be a lot of questions if we try to write down the spec for this, considering that the content is dynamic and may change with time.

                                    I can suggest the following instead. Suppose you have labeled the "sticky" issues using JIRA's "Labels" field. Then you can add a _second_ sorting using "Transformations" panel, and make it by Labels. All marked issues will be placed together at the top or at the bottom.

                                    The same can be done with some other fields too. Of course the drawback is that other users can see these marks too, but this thing works right now!

                                    Kind regards,
                                    Igor

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                                      planned  ·  26 comments  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
                                      AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                      Yes, the work is in progress, the updates will be posted in the Structure Gantt group, mentioned in the previous comment.

                                      Thanks
                                      Igor

                                      AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                      Hello,

                                      Thanks for voting for Gantt Chart feature in Structure. It's been a few months already that we've been working on this, and the team is very excited. We've got some very nice ideas but we need your help.

                                      There are many ways to implement Gantt Chart, many JIRA configurations and various conclusions to be drawn out of the chart. We'd like to reach out to you to learn more about what *you* need from this feature.

                                      We have set up a Google Group for Gantt Chart early adopters. We are going to publish short surveys and ask for general discussion of certain Gantt-related things. Later, we're also going to publish links to preview versions of the product to get your impression and feedback.

                                      If you would like to see Gantt Chart for JIRA work in the way you'd like it to work, please subscribe and participate:

                                      https://groups.google.com/d/forum/structure-gantt

                                      Thank you!

                                      Igor
                                      ALM Works Team

                                      AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                      Jamie, thanks for your feedback. Yes, it's too early to ask when, sorry!

                                      I can say that we indeed want to start small, and have the first version contain only the very basic functionality. Things that you mentioned are certainly on the radar, although I'm a bit worried about that "etc." :)

                                      Once we have something to show, we'll start a private early access program. I will post here an announcement when it's ready. I can say that it won't be ready _at least_ until 3 months from now.

                                      Kind regards,
                                      Igor

                                      AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                      Jamie, you bet! :)

                                      AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                      Hi Derek,

                                      Thanks for the kind words! Structure 3.0 isn't released yet, but it's coming soon.

                                      As for the Gantt, yes, we do commit to creating Gantt chart for Structure, however, I cannot promise specific dates or versions. I would imagine 3.0 will be succeeded by a sequence of "smaller" releases, but Gantt will definitely be the next major thing. The initial work has already begun, and after 3.0 release it will have full attention of our core team.

                                      Kind regards,
                                      Igor

                                      AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                      Hi Travis,

                                      We have started working it conceptually. However, our current main goal is to release Structure 3.0, which will contain a lot of great new features, which will also be instrumental for the best Gantt chart we would make after that release.

                                      I'm sorry I can't give you more specific details yet -- please stand by for Structure 3.0 announcement.

                                      Kind regards,
                                      Igor

                                      AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                      Kevin, thanks for your feedback.

                                      What you describe is indeed a light-weight version of Gantt chart, or at least a related calculation. We do have plans to work on this after the release of Structure 3.0. Quite probably we'll cover the simple cases first.

                                      Kind regards,
                                      Igor

                                      AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                      Jens-Martin, thanks for keeping interest in this feature. We're currently working on Structure 3.0 and will start working on Gantt right after that release. No ETA is yet available, sorry.

                                      Kind regards,
                                      Igor

                                      AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                      Mark, Eduard, thanks for your comments. We're one step closer to Gantt with 2.5 release.

                                      Our next big release is going to be Structure 3.0, with a few things remade from ground up. Generated structures, non-issue rows, multiple places for one issue in a structure - all that is coming.

                                      That would be another step. After 3.0 we will be able to focus on the Gantt chart. Before 3.0 it wouldn't make much sense technically - we'll need to do things differently on the new API from Structure 3.0.

                                      Thanks again for your interest in this feature and your support.
                                      Igor

                                      AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                      Dan, Gantt Chart is one of the top requested features, so we will try to have it within next year. However, we cannot make promises on the feature dates.

                                      AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                      Markus, I can tell with 100% certainty that we won't release Gantt chart feature in Structure in the next two weeks.

                                      Also, to everyone watching -- thanks for your support of this idea! It is a crucial piece of input for our prioritization.

                                      However, I can tell that it is unlikely that we'll have Gantt charts earlier than at least six months from now -- if done right, it is a huge piece of functionality. And we want to do it right. Eventually. (Or perhaps have some other plugin vendor provide a plugin that would show Gantt on the Structure widget - some work is being done in that direction as well.)

                                      Thanks and keep feedback coming!
                                      Igor

                                      AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                      Oh we may need a whole lot of things for the Gantt. Some could be expressed via existing JIRA concepts (for example, dependency - through links), some could be added via custom fields.

                                      AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                      Aggelos, thanks for your question - this is possible, but beyond the scope of current plans (version 1.0) - as well as the Gantt chart, for that matter.

                                      After version 1.0 kicks off, we'll continue improving Structure, and adding features found in Project software would be quite natural.

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                                        2 comments  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
                                        AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                        Hi Olivier,

                                        Thanks for posting this request! I understand the problem.

                                        One thing we had in mind for a while is to somehow make generated and manually added rows different -- for example, adding some colored marking for generated rows. That way you can see what kind each row is.

                                        Another idea is to have on/off switch for a generator, so you can temporarily disable all generators -- then all that's left is going to be manually added items.

                                        If we implement both of these ideas, would you still need additional filtering?

                                        Kind regards,
                                        Igor

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                                          4 comments  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
                                          AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                          Stefan, thanks for the kind words! We're doing our best.

                                          I hear you about folders -- we have plans to make them more flexible and add some properties, but we wouldn't go as far as making them comparable to issues in complexity. If you need that much, it's probably better just to create a special issue type.

                                          Kind regards,
                                          Igor

                                          AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                          Hi Stefan,

                                          This is a great idea, thanks! We thought about something like that too, where it comes to comparing top-down estimates with bottom-up. We'll see what we can do!

                                          Kind regards,
                                          Igor

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                                            1 comment  ·  Structure Plugin for JIRA: Ideas  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
                                            AdminIgor Sereda (Admin, ALM Works) commented  · 

                                            Hi Greg,

                                            Thanks for describing your case. This is a known limitation in the current feature set and we're thinking about how to improve it in the best way. Automation is already quite complicated and we're trying to contain the complexity.

                                            With the current functionality, there are some workarounds that can be done. For example, one could use a grouper after the extender, and group by Label or a custom field, adding another level between Epics and Stories. Stories will still be attached to epics without duplicates. Using Labels has an additional benefit of allowing multiple labels per issue.

                                            Kind regards,
                                            Igor

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